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Apr 19, 2026
Wait, The White House Runs on Solar?
Wait, The White House Runs on Solar?
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[upbeat music] Welcome to the Viro Podcast. Every week, we dig into what's really happening where climate crashes into culture, politics, and the world you actually live in.
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The stuff that matters, told straight. This is Viro. Let's go. [upbeat music] Okay, first topic on the agenda today, and honestly, this one set the tone for everything. The White House is running on solar panels.
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The same administration that is actively dismantling clean energy policy across the entire country. Like, take a second with that. And nobody announced it. Axios just found out.
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They called the White House, and nobody wanted to talk about it. Of course they didn't, because it's embarrassing.
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You can't spend every day torching clean energy policy and then quietly enjoy the benefits on your own roof. But here's what gets me. This goes back to 1979.
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Jimmy Carter put solar panels on the White House right after the oil crisis. He literally stood in front of them and said, "We need to stop our crippling dependence on foreign oil." 1979. And then Reagan ripped them out.
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Four years later, gone. Along with the tax credits, along with the research funding, all of it. So Carter sees the future. Reagan erases it, and then we spend the next forty years having the same argument.
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Bush quietly put them back. Obama upgraded them. And now Trump, who has made killing clean energy basically a personality trait, kept them. Didn't touch them. Didn't say a word about them. Because they work. That's it.
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The economics are just too obvious. You cannot argue with a lower electricity bill. But here's where it gets actually infuriating.
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While the White House quietly runs on clean energy, the people inside it are out here saying things like this. The Energy Secretary, Chris Wright, called solar panels a parasite. Parasite. His words, not ours.
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[chuckles] The thing on the roof of his boss's house, a parasite.
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And then there's Lee Zeldin, head of the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, who has been publicly casting doubt on climate science in his own talks.
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The guy running the agency designed to protect the environment doesn't believe in the thing the agency exists to address. That's just what he said, out loud, on record. And it's not just talk.
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Look at what happened in Virginia. Dominion Energy has been building the largest offshore wind farm in the country, eleven billion dol- A decade in the making.
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Seventy-six turbines, enough to power six hundred and sixty thousand homes. Right before Christmas, the Trump administration issued a stop work order, cited national security risks, classified reports.
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Couldn't really explain it further. Dominion sued, and a federal judge looked at the government's reasoning and basically said, "You didn't actually explain how this specific project is a security threat.
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Injunction granted. Back to work." Month-long stoppage cost two hundred and twenty-eight million dollars. They were losing five million dollars a day.
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And rate payers, regular Virginia families, are the ones on the hook for it. And that's the pattern. It's not just ideology. It's actively expensive. Blocking clean energy doesn't save money. It costs money every time.
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Meanwhile, oil prices are spiking because of what's happening in the Middle East. The Strait of Hormuz gets disrupted, and suddenly everyone pays more at the pump. That's fossil fuel dependency in real time.
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Choke points, conflicts, price spikes. Every single time something goes wrong somewhere on the other side of the world. The sun doesn't have a choke point. Wind doesn't spike because of a war.
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But we keep choosing the thing that does. And here's why this actually matters beyond the politics. AI is about to put insane pressure on the power grid. Like, we are nowhere near ready for what's coming.
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Data centers are already some of the biggest energy consumers on the planet, and they are growing fast. The question isn't whether we need more power. The question is, where does it come from?
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And if the answer is fossil fuels, then every AI prompt, every query, every model we run is adding to the problem. Which is literally why Viro exists. The whole idea is that AI doesn't have to be part of the problem.
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Every time you use Viro, it funds clean energy and climate projects, because someone has to actually build the bridge between where AI is going and the clean grid it needs to get there.
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The White House figured it out in 1979, took a forty-year detour, and we're still fighting about it. [upbeat music] A quick note for any brands listening. Wanna showcase your brand with us?
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[upbeat music] Okay, so we just spent a lot of time on what the government is doing wrong. Let's talk about something that's actually exciting.
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Pixar dropped a new movie called Hoppers, and before you roll your eyes and go, "Oh, great, another animated movie about saving the planet." Hear us out. This one is different. Like, genuinely different.
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The main character, Mabel, is a nineteen-year-old environmental activist. She body swaps with a beaver. There's a whole animal kingdom with a literal monarch butterfly as queen of the insects.
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The science is so accurate, they hired a real beaver researcher as a consultant. And it has the best Rotten Tomatoes score Pixar has gotten in nine years. So what is Pixar doing right that everyone else gets wrong?
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They didn't preach. That's it. That's the whole thing. The director, Daniel Chong, said he led with comedy.Goofy characters, silliness, and let the emotion follow.
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He wasn't trying to make you feel bad about your carbon footprint. He was trying to make you laugh first and care second. And that is exactly the formula that actually works.
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Because here's the thing about climate messaging that nobody in the environmental space wants to admit. It has a branding problem.
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For years, caring about the environment has been coded as uncool, preachy, annoying, the person at the dinner table making everyone feel guilty.
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And Gen Z especially has been in this weird position where they actually care more about climate than any generation before them, but they also have really good radar for when something feels performative or forced.
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And most climate content sets that radar off immediately. So how does Hoppers get around that? Because it meets people where they are. It doesn't ask you to be an activist before you walk in.
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It just asks you to root for Mabel, and also maybe a beaver named King George.
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And by the time the credits roll, you've absorbed real science about wetland ecosystems and habitat loss without ever feeling like you were in a classroom.
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The Sierra Club actually did a whole piece on how scientifically accurate the movie is. Beavers sit with their tails tucked under their bodies, not flat on the ground.
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The dam-building sequence shows the actual order of how they construct them: rocks first, then logs, then mud carried while walking on their hind legs. [laughs] And here's the fact that broke my brain.
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Beavers are one of the most important animals for biodiversity on the planet. When beavers build dams, they create wetlands. When wetlands exist, more species move in.
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One small area near a beaver lodge can support deer, rabbits, raccoons, and dozens of other species all at once. They are literally ecosystem engineers. And we almost never talk about them.
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Meanwhile, we've lost six hundred and seventy thousand acres of wetlands in a single decade. That's roughly the size of Rhode Island. Gone.
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And wetlands cover only six percent of Earth's surface, but support forty percent of all plant and animal species. Six percent of the surface, forty percent of the species.
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Scientists are calling the current rate of species loss the sixth mass extinction, and it's largely driven by habitat loss. Not some far-off future threat. Happening right now.
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So the fact that Pixar made a movie where the villain is a highway being built through a wildlife glade, where the hero is a teenage girl who gives enough of a care to fight for it, where beavers are literally royalty, that is not small.
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Is culture doing what policy won't? And here's the Gen Z angle that I think is actually the most important part of this whole conversation. There has been this shift happening.
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Caring about the planet used to feel like something your parents put on a bumper sticker. It felt earnest in a way that felt almost embarrassing. And now it's flipping.
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Climate anxiety is real and documented across an entire generation. But alongside that anxiety, there's this reclamation happening, where young people are going, "Actually, no. Caring about this isn't cringe.
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It's the only rational response to what is actually going on." And Hoppers lands right in the middle of that moment.
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Piper Curda, who voices Mabel, said if people can walk away knowing it's okay to care and it's cool to care, she'd feel like they accomplished something huge. That's the whole shift right there in one sentence.
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Because here's what the last segment was about: policy going backward.
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Zeldin at the EPA, solar panels banned, wind farms stopped at Christmas, the systems that are supposed to protect us actively working against the future.
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And here's what this segment is about: culture going forward anyway.
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A Pixar movie with a 19-year-old activist hero, real science, real stakes, made for kids who are going to grow up and vote and build companies and decide what the world looks like.
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The government can remove solar subsidies. They cannot remove a generation that watched Hoppers at 10 years old and decided that beavers are worth fighting for. And honestly, that might be the longer play anyway.
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Because policy changes every four years. Culture changes people. Enviro fits right into that same shift.
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The idea that the tools you use every day don't have to work against the planet, that AI can be part of the solution instead of part of the problem, that caring about this stuff and building cool things are not opposites.
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It's okay to care. It's cool to care. We're just trying to build the infrastructure that makes caring actually count. [upbeat music] A quick note for any brands listening. Want to showcase your brand with us?
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Partner with the Viro Podcast, and your marketing dollars go directly toward funding renewable energy and climate projects. Simple as that. Link in the show notes.
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[upbeat music] Okay, last thing on the agenda today, and this one is actually a call to action, so stay with us. Earth Day is this week, April 22nd.
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And before you go, "Oh yeah, I know Earth Day," let me give you some context, because the history of this thing is actually wild. So it's 1969.
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There is a massive oil spill off the coast of Santa Barbara, millions of gallons, 10,000 birds, dolphins, seals, and sea lions dead. Senator Gaylord Nelson from Wisconsin flies out to see it and is absolutely devastated.
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And on the flight home, he's flipping through a magazine and reads about anti-Vietnam War teach-ins happening on college campuses, students just showing up and demanding conversations about something that mattered.
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And he had this moment of like, "Wait, what if we did that but for the environment?"
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So he goes back to Washington, proposes a national environmental teach-in.picks April 22nd, 1970, chosen specifically because it falls between spring break and finals, so college students would actually show up.
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Then it just exploded. 20 million Americans showed up on the first Earth Day. 20 million on 2,000 college campuses, 10,000 schools, hundreds of communities, all organized bottoms up with no real central authority.
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Nelson later said Earth Day basically planned itself. And it worked.
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By December of that same year, Congress created the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, the same agency Lee Zeldin is now running into the ground.
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Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, Safe Drinking Water Act, all of it came directly out of the momentum from that one day in 1970. One day. And now 56 years later, Earth Day is global.
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This week there are over 9,000 events happening around the world. Cleanups, tree planting, climate meetups, real people doing real things in real communities. Not performative, not a hashtag. Actual humans showing up.
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And here's the thing about showing up. It matters more than people think. Nelson didn't start with a bill or a policy proposal. He started by asking people to gather and talk, and 20 million people answered.
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And that changed the legal landscape of the entire country within a year. So if you've been feeling like nothing you do individually matters, go find an event this week. There is something near you.
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We'll put the link in the show notes. Earthday.org has a full event finder. 9,000 plus events. No excuses. And if you happen to be in San Francisco this week, we are going to be at SF Climate Week.
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Would genuinely love to meet you. Reach out. Come find us. We'll be the ones talking about beavers and solar panels.
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But seriously, Earth Day started because one senator looked at an oil spill and decided that people needed to gather. That gathering changed everything.
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The question Nelson asked 56 years ago is still the one we're answering today. Are we willing? We think you are. That's why you're here. Now go find your event.
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And that is a wrap on the very first episode of the Viro Podcast.
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We talked about solar panels on the White House roof, Pixar beavers saving the planet, and why April 22nd might actually be the most important day of the week. [laughs] Not a bad first episode. Not bad at all.
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Catch us next week where we are back in your ears diving into culture, policy, and climate. All the things nobody else is connecting, but somebody has to. That somebody is us. See you then. [outro music]
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